I'm not a tourney player, but it looks like you committed yourself on the reraise and had to call regardless. You went w/ a read that turned out to be wrong, it happens, lucky for you that the cards went your way in a 60/40. Congrats on the win!!!!

Posted by Landlord79 on 2007-08-18 04:32:08

Congrats on win! I'm not sure I'm following the hand, though, as you describe it. Given the stack sizes before the hand, how did he pushed "making the pot 200k" and you then have 2:1 odds? I'm not wild about the call even with the odds. If you were first in and raised and he shoved, maybe, but a 4-bet from the chip leader? I'd think I was WAY behind to that range. But what do I know...you weren't. Nice spike!

Posted by EdmondDantes on 2007-08-18 07:10:51

You're right...the pot was more like 270ish. It was late when I wrote that :)

Posted by Swami54 on 2007-08-18 10:20:06

It sounds like you dug yourself out of a big hole. It boils down to a bad read that worked out, good for you! In order to win you most likely have to lay a bad one on somebody late in the tournament. In hindsight, you should have folded to the rr, but you had a read(which was wrong) but it worked out. Is there a candy named suckout? Cause they taste sooo sweeet!

Posted on 2007-08-18 18:08:51

Based on odds I shouldn't fold to the rr. I only need 25% equity to call which is an extremely wide range of hands.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 69.132% 68.80% 00.33% 62438827 299985.50 { JJ+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 30.868% 30.54% 00.33% 27713314 299985.50 { Kc9c }

I entered a tight reraising range for the Villain but his initial raising range is very wide. He folds a very large percentage of those hands to my reraise. I guess the question is what range of hands should I be making this play with?

Posted by Swami54 on 2007-08-19 10:34:05

Congats. nice win.

Posted on 2007-08-19 11:02:55

I think the play and thinking was a bit flawed, but you had to call IMHO. When the guys raises from the button, unless he is a total tight nitt, your raise is fine, but why raise half your stack? If you believe he would be raising from the button with a large percentage of hands -- hey, most solid players would raise with almost any two -- then a RR push is pretty standard too. He knows that you are pushing with almost any two, but still needs a good hand to call you. He probably makes the button raise with almost any two cards, but would only call you with a pair -- perhaps it has to be 77 or better for some players, a strong A or a hand like KQ or maybe KJ. I would say that it could be rough for him to call you with an A worse than A9. So a push makes great sense with your hand.

The problem with your 90k RR is that you basically need to call his potential push because you are getting about the right odds for his potential push holdings. I think it's wider than you identified. I would add pairs over 77 and Aces doens to A9. But why put yourself to the decision? If he's good he realizes that you have pretty much committed yourself and will call your push, so your raise is pretty much the same as a push. But still... just to make the point you might as well just push. Make sense?

Anyway, everyone needs a good suck-out to win one of these things. Great going. I enjoy reading these things, keep them coming.

Posted by lakong on 2007-08-19 12:10:30