What Could Have Been
By Bond18 on September 25th, 2007
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At this point, almost every regular in the MTTc forum has a score of that magnitude or close to it. While Iām very happy that my friends--all of them quite deserving--hit it huge, it comes with a catch; Iām a petty and envious man so I feel jealous. I want to hit it really hard, too. I mean who doesnāt? The big, potentially life changing score is every serious MTTāers dream, and an absolute ton of your overall profit in playing MTTās comes from a few sizeable yearly scores. The hardest part to stomach is that Iāve been in a position to hit it huge a number of times now, and something always goes awry. I donāt feel like rattling off every time Iāve been three outed at a final table, but their have been a few times in the course of history that I watched huge amounts of equity slip through my fingers. So hereās what could have been:
1. The first major final table I made in live poker was a 1k buy-in in Australia that got like 260 guys. I was close to broke at the time due to bankroll mismanagement and running extremely bad. Luckily my friend Rob decided to back me online and as weād made a little bit of progress we decided to take one shot at a live 1k event. Going into four handed at the final table I had a little over half the chips in play and the pay outs were as follows:
First: $79,360
Second: $46,080
Third: $28,160
Fourth: $19,200
As we returned from the break I looked down at TT on the button. The UTG player open shoved his short stack and I reshoved. He turned up K7o and runner runners a flush. Okay fair enough.
The very next hand Iām dealt TT UTG again and open raise. The SB goes for a resteal all in and I call, and he flips up KQ. Flop KQ7 and Iāve had a huge chunk of chips taken. We continue play for a while and I manage to regain some but not many chips when I look down at AK on the button. The UTG player again open shoves and I reshove. He shows KJ and promptly flops a J. OKAY FINE. Iām still in. Play continue for a while longer and it reaches 3am from a noon start time. Nobody is going out. The blinds have gotten very high. I look down at KK in the SB and UTG open shoves. The button folds and I of course rejam, BB folds. UTG flips up KQs.
Flop: Qxx
Turn: Q
River: X
Obviously, I was no pleased. Iām pretty sure my exact words were āGOD FUCKING DAMN IT!!ā followed by smashing my fists on the floor. Yea, I got pretty excited over that kind of thing back then.
2. The second close call came during the 2006 WSOP ME. I was pretty bad at poker at the time (still am) but the field that year was nearly 9000 players and absolutely full of clueless spastics. I had a pretty aggressive pre flop style of play which got me pretty far since I was three betting a lot and not afraid to abuse the bubble. Two situations come to mind in regards to costing me a huge amount of equity in that tournament. The first came late in day two. The average stack at the time was 40,000 and I had 70,000. The opponent in the hand had 55,000. Blinds were 300/600 with a 100 ante.
Mp1 open raised to 2400 and I called on the button with 77. The blinds folded.
Flop: J 7 3 rainbow
MP1 bets 4500 and I call.
Turn: 6
MP1 checks and I fire out 10,000, to which he instantly check raised all in over. I of course called in half a second. MP1 flips over 66 and thereās now almost 3 times the average in the pot.
River: 6
The entire section of the tournament EXPLODED. MP1 begins screaming and dancing out of his seat, shouting āYEEEEEEEEEEEAH! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEA!!!!!ā I stood watching it in relative shock while people came over to pat me on the back and ask if I didnāt want to maybe cry it out a little bit. Iām pretty sure some people made calls on their cell phones just to tell others what theyād seen, I donāt know, itās all kind of blurry. I sat down, swore once, composed myself, and doubled next hand, then kept going. Itās hard to say exactly how much equity that pot cost me, though we were nearing the money and being able to abuse it
I managed to survive and get back into the game and advance well into day four. Late in day 4 my stack was hovering around 260k with the average at about 400k. There were 200 players left with the payout structure looking like this:
1st $12,000,000
2nd $6,102,499
3rd $4,123,310
4th $3,628,513
5th $3,216,182
6th $2,803,851
7th $2,391,520
8th $1,979,189
9th $1,566,858
10 - 12th $1,154,527
13 - 15th $907,128
16 - 18th $659,730
19 - 27th $494,797
28 - 36th $329,865
37 - 45th $247,399
46 - 54th $164,932
55 - 63rd $123,699
64 - 72nd $90,713
73 - 81st $65,973
82 - 126th $51,129
127 - 189th $47,006
190 - 252nd $42,882
So clearly weāre getting close to some big money. The button open raises to 30k and I shove my stack with AKo. The button thinks it over and makes the call with AQ.
Flop: Q J 9
Turn: X
River: X
Itās hard to say what that pot's equity was worth, though Iām sure someone could do the math and tell me a truly disturbing number.
3. The next time something interesting happened was a few months back when I made a run in the 1k buy in Sunday Million. To give you an idea of pay outs; 10th was $9,930, 4th $100,666, 2nd $179,760, 1st $353,186. With 10 left on the final table bubble, the chip leader of the tournament was one of the worst players Iād ever seen in any tournament but refused to fold and always hit. He put a gross beat on Matt24 at the final 3 tables calling off 30 BBās pre with 3 invested holding K8o. Thatās how he rolled. On the CO, I open shoved 12 BBās with A6s and he decided to call in the SB with QJo. It was all over on the flop.
4. Of course there's the 95<88 on 678 flop early on day 3 of this years WSOP ME. I don't think that story really needs any retelling to anyone whose ever read this blog. God knows what having a top 10 chip stack near the bubble is worth in THAT tournament.
5. And of course the most recent so close feeling came last night, which is the reason Iām writing the entry on this topic. With about 30 left in the WCOOP 1k event, I got it all in with KK vs a short stackās (250k) ATs and another medium stacks (about 980k) JJ. The board came A77XJ and the 2.1 million chip pot (the average was about 1 million, CL had 4 million) was shipped to both opponents.
So thatās my little bitch fest. Itāll be the last blog entry about bad beats until I play live poker again, but hashing those things over and over doesnāt really do anyone any good. However, getting them down on paper helps me sort of let them go and look towards the future. I really wish I was stupid enough to believe in being ādueā right about now.
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I've suffered hundreds of bad beats, but reading this makes me absolutely sick. The one thing I know helps somewhat is to try and think of the times that you put bad beats on other people. It does happen. It amazes me when watching the big events on TV how often the winners needs to suck out. to get that win. I'm sure when your time comes you will be able to relate a great suck-out that did it for you and somewhat evened the score. When Jesus beat TJ in the ME he had at least two monster suckouts to win. Unfortunately it's a big part of the game.
Sunday I was in front of the computer and decided to sweat a few guys. I watched Adam, Badger, Shaun and Podiman. Adam was the only one who truly went down to a bad beat. He had KK and his opponent had 22 and flopped trips. To give Adam an extra kick in the gut he turned quads!
I was looking for you, but didn't know your PS name. I did some Google searching but nothing came up. I tried you on IM, but you weren't logged in. I just assumed you skipped it. Monday morning Kyle told me about your finish and your PS name. Bummer. I would have loved to watch you. Oh, well... next time.
Still a great showing. What an ugly hand. It reminds me of a hand in a $525 one table sat at the 2005 world series. I had a slight chip lead when we were down to 3. Nobody wanted to chop until two. I get dealt AA and the other two guys go all-in before me. Fantastic! One had TT, the other AK. It was over on the TJQ flop! It happens. That's poker!
Sunday I was in front of the computer and decided to sweat a few guys. I watched Adam, Badger, Shaun and Podiman. Adam was the only one who truly went down to a bad beat. He had KK and his opponent had 22 and flopped trips. To give Adam an extra kick in the gut he turned quads!
I was looking for you, but didn't know your PS name. I did some Google searching but nothing came up. I tried you on IM, but you weren't logged in. I just assumed you skipped it. Monday morning Kyle told me about your finish and your PS name. Bummer. I would have loved to watch you. Oh, well... next time.
Still a great showing. What an ugly hand. It reminds me of a hand in a $525 one table sat at the 2005 world series. I had a slight chip lead when we were down to 3. Nobody wanted to chop until two. I get dealt AA and the other two guys go all-in before me. Fantastic! One had TT, the other AK. It was over on the TJQ flop! It happens. That's poker!
Posted by lakong on 2007-09-25 11:02:10
Dude, just when I think I'm ahead in the race to the bottom, there's Bond18 sitting in a lawn chair...been there, beat that. Those are some gruesome, gruesome stories. I have to give you credit for the gritty fight back after the quad beat. I might have bounced the last 15k in chips of the guy's skull and spent the rest of my tourney watching from the rail as my stack was blinded down. Nasty stuff indeed.
Posted on 2007-09-25 11:04:29
Those are rough beats to take, and can feel your pain. Been there done that, just not as deep as you were in the tourny.
Posted by Podiman on 2007-09-25 11:25:42
Well...you took the quad 6 beat like a man for whatever that's worth.
Posted on 2007-09-25 14:56:01
Don't worry, I'm a mttc regular and I haven't had a tournament score over 35k ever. I'm a luckbox in other things, and I'm the shit at game selection at 10/20 and 25/50, but still, I wanna have that score too.
Posted by Pechorin on 2007-09-25 14:57:14
Yep It's that "Maybe Next Time Factor' that always brings us back. Hopefully your due date will really be the next time.
Posted on 2007-09-26 10:34:45
No need to apologize for wanting to hit it BIG. "Greed is Good" Just hang in - your turn will come when you least expect it.
Posted on 2007-09-28 19:19:56
Yeah Baby! THE BIG SCORE!!
Everyone's dream and why we play. Easy street is waiting if you can make the score.
Use to play with an old school poker player in Harlem named E-Z who always use to say, "you never find the big score, ithe big score always finds you".
Everyone's dream and why we play. Easy street is waiting if you can make the score.
Use to play with an old school poker player in Harlem named E-Z who always use to say, "you never find the big score, ithe big score always finds you".
Posted on 2007-10-15 07:00:38
I feel ya. i woulda slit that fucks throat for that main even 1 outer
Posted on 2008-10-14 19:28:16
I used to hate badbeats, they tore me up emotionally, now its become part of my game, I expect them and I give them out too, I love it when it happens, usually a misread and I get a bit of payback. This story has helped me along the acceptance road. Now I'm sure it's all about waiting for your time. It WILL come, I keep saying to myself. Great posts thanks.
Posted on 2009-01-23 09:06:54
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