Weekend results
By Adanthar on December 11th, 2007
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There are three or four more sats left (I plan on playing them all, even if I win a seat in the first one; despite the structure, the play is terrible enough to be worthwhile) and the 15K ME (I may or may not play this if I don't sat in, pretty much up to my backers and how I'm feeling about it.) I'm still feeling very positive about my game/results (in fact I lost the absolute minimum on a hand today that I might have gone broke with online), and feel that I'll end the year on a good note no matter what happens at the Bellagio, but it'd certainly be nice to win a bunch more cash this week.
Vivek played a weird hand in the 5K that I'll post/comment on here after he posts it on 2+2 himself tomorrow or the day after. Usually, we agree on hands pretty quickly, but I really disagreed with him here and think it's worth discussing. I'd rather not comment on every decision/the outcome yet, because it's a multistage hand, so I'll start with PF, which may be the most important decision here, anyway:
At 800/1600/200 9 handed, Vivek's got ~23K in the BB after posting. It's folded to good2cu in the CO, who makes it 3700 with ~30K behind. He's made several of these tiny raises before, once each in EP and MP and once on the button, where he eventually showed down T8o. The button is a middle aged Indian guy who seems fairly aggro, and the SB is a tight older player; both have g2cu covered.
Good2cu is actually a very good cash game pro and one of the biggest winners at 5/10-25/50 NL online, but Vivek didn't know this at the time. Regardless, Vivek looks down to find J9o. There is 7900 in the pot and Vivek would have to call 2100 to see a flop. He could also fold, or shove 23K as a resteal.
My questions for my readers (other than "fold/call/raise", obviously):
-What do you think about g2cu's range here?
-Does knowing he is a very good cash game player alter what you want to do?
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Shove.
-His range is so wide here, >60% of all hands imo.
-After finding out about him, that would make me want to push even more, for 2 reasons. First, the fact that he's a big online winner means that he's very capable of laying down a hand. 2nd, cash players are more likely to raise light in that spot than tourney players with those stack sizes imo.
-His range is so wide here, >60% of all hands imo.
-After finding out about him, that would make me want to push even more, for 2 reasons. First, the fact that he's a big online winner means that he's very capable of laying down a hand. 2nd, cash players are more likely to raise light in that spot than tourney players with those stack sizes imo.
Posted on 2007-12-11 14:31:49
I guess it depends on how Vivek had been playing...how does good2cu view him?
If he's viewed as tight I could find a shove resteal here...otherwise I fold.
If he's viewed as tight I could find a shove resteal here...otherwise I fold.
Posted by Swami54 on 2007-12-11 20:25:29
Since he didn't know he was such a great cash player folding is good with me. I would push with a slightly better hand.
Posted by LakeofFire on 2007-12-12 01:24:08
In terms of his range, given that you told us about the T9o hand... he could have almost anything, so the range is actually completely unknown IMHO. I would fold J9o. He's out of position and has no idea what the villian has. There has to be better spots than this. It's the kind of hand where he can easily lose a ton if he hits a J high flop or even a flop like 79A out of position. Fold.
Posted on 2007-12-12 12:09:41
His range is probably somewhat wide, def not >60% tho, I mean he just showed down T8o... Regardless of the fact, his raise is small and and IMO this does not put enough in the pot to resteal w/ junk. The fact of the matter is your hand sucks - a lot - (if you do happen to be called, you will probably be crushed) I would just fold here.
Now if your hand was say JTs (MUCH better chance of sucking out if your called) I would probably go ahead and push here.
Now if your hand was say JTs (MUCH better chance of sucking out if your called) I would probably go ahead and push here.
Posted on 2007-12-12 19:12:49
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